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 Post subject: Food Standards
PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 7:48 am 
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The Dutch egg scandal continues to evolve.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08 ... gs-months/

However, I read "consumers would need to eat 20,000 poisoned eggs in one sitting to become ill as a result"

I think 20,000 cups of coffee or even 20,000 glasses of water in one sitting would prove pretty fatal - not just "become ill".

So - are food standards set too stringently resulting in unnecessary suffering of untreated animals and waste of "contaminated" food that is destroyed?

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 Post subject: Re: Food Standards
PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 8:54 am 
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It's a good question J.

Certainly the number of eggs needed to have a toxic effect is certainly very high compared with for example chocolate (which is not just toxic to dogs) where the lethal dose is around 22kg - which is also a lot mars bars.

The point made by the head of Food Standards was that contaminated products were being removed because there was something there that should not be there - ie Fipronil.

Toxicity levels are one thing and relatively easy to calculate; but what about the ability to be mutagenic and perhaps cause cancers? I doubt the studies have been done beyond the simple test (which shows that many materials fail the test).

I personally would prefer caution.

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 Post subject: Re: Food Standards
PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:00 am 
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TF1 news last night said that the safe daily limit is 10 eggs for an adult,6 for an adulesant and 1 for a one year old.
The average consumption is 6 a day for an adult in France?
Which I find rather a lot.

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 Post subject: Re: Food Standards
PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:17 am 
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Cool Hand Luke (if anyone else remembers this film !) managed to eat 50 eggs in an hour :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Food Standards
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I remember Cool Hand Luke. I was in love with Paul Newman until he died....
@Papibryn - I think they take the no. of eggs produced and divide it by the population - it will include eggy ingredients in all sorts of processed food.

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I only managed 6 scotch eggs and 6 pickled eggs in one sitting, but my brother has managed a 15 egg omelet in a sitting

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After which I'd give it 5 minutes if I were you.


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 Post subject: Re: Food Standards
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I've never come across a French person eating 6 eggs a day! Find that hard to believe, if it was the supermarkets would constantly be selling out of eggs. Can't beat a good egg freshly laid by your own hens.

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AS suggested above Sue, it is not the eating of eggs as whole eggs that racks up the usage. It is the processed and prepared foods:

Mayonnaise
Pasta (some at least)
Cakes and Biscuits
Pate en croute
and isn't that nice golden glaze on Pain au chocolat and croissants an egg wash?

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Elstow wrote:
After which I'd give it 5 minutes if I were you.


Well how long would you give this one, Tripes a Poulette a la Ploucaise

6 young chickens, pot roasted in half a litre of water, with about 150 ml walnut vinegar, when cooked strip the meat off the bones, and put the shredded meat back into the water the birds had been cooked in, add a large tin of cooked potatoes (or a 1kg bag of chilled cooked potatoes) two small tins of new carrots and peas, 3 tea spoons of dried ground garlic, mix well, then dissolve 4 sheets of gelatine in some of the liquid that the chickens had been cooked in, pour the liquid over the meat place in the fridge for the mixture to set

This can be eaten hot (reheat in a microwave for about 30 seconds) or cold, I prefer it cold

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sueindoors wrote:
I've never come across a French person eating 6 eggs a day! Find that hard to believe, if it was the supermarkets would constantly be selling out of eggs. Can't beat a good egg freshly laid by your own hens.



Sure it's as Mad said that it includes all products with eggs in them.

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