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 Post subject: Re: Glyphosate
PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 9:04 am 
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The grass used to be only 6" high but the GM modifications made it grow 1.5m :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Glyphosate
PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 9:37 am 
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Miscanthus for biofuel?

Or is that taller?

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 Post subject: Re: Glyphosate
PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 9:55 am 
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The grass used to be only 6" high but the GM modifications made it grow 1.5m :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Glyphosate
PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 5:02 pm 
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Farmers registered Bio with the AB symbol have a lot of criteria to fulfil and it costs them money, hence the higher prices for bio food. We've come across farmers who say they cannot afford to go officially bio but that their crops and animals are raised as 'naturally' or bio as possible. It takes several years for non-bio land to become bio and there is always the fear that a neighbour will use undesirable sprays and contaminate the bio land.

Growing only one crop is not without risk if there's a bad harvest. I imagine the argument would be "not enough land to diversify".

I've noticed some fields around here growing soya - I wasn't sure what it was at first, just some sort of green stuff. In this area, they grow a lot of vegetables like cabbage, cauliflower, leaks, onions and spuds - huge fields of them. But there are more and more bio products as there seems to be a big demand. There are also a lot of farms that sell directly, or via farmers' markets.

Our local pig farmer said that they were losing money when they reared in sheds. They decided to transform their business and since they have fewer pigs who live outside, they are doing a roaring trade, selling directly from their farm shop.

By the way, is anyone else affected by the butter shortage or is it only Brittany ? There's no butter to be had anywhere round here.


Go west young lady, there is butter in LeClercs, in the St Brieuc area

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 Post subject: Re: Glyphosate
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Actually I just found some in Super U in Cancale \:D/ . Leclerc and Carrefour in Saint Malo are cleaned out.


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By the way, is anyone else affected by the butter shortage or is it only Brittany ? There's no butter to be had anywhere round here.


No shortage of butter down here. In fact I have just bought a large block of Bretagne butter at our Super U.

Blue flowers on plants just over 2ft tall is almost certainly flax ( as stated above). Thankfully our agricultural land is not adapted to huge fields of monoculture. The closest we get to it is trees and even then there is not a great move towards growing single species - although we do have a small area set aside to pine trees (not sure of the species but probably a spruce) must be nearly 4 hectares!

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Interesting background - http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-41766352

There is loads of butter, but farmers can get better prices elsewhere, it seems.

Loads here too!

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 Post subject: Re: Glyphosate
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Interesting background - http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-41766352

There is loads of butter, but farmers can get better prices elsewhere, it seems.

Loads here too!

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But is it the farmers, or the middle men who are the cause of the butter shortage ??

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 10:41 am 
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niemeyjt wrote:
Interesting background - http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-41766352

There is loads of butter, but farmers can get better prices elsewhere, it seems.

Loads here too!

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But is it the farmers, or the middle men who are the cause of the butter shortage ??


As always I'd put my money on the middle men twisting sceaming BA's

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Anyone remeber the sugar shortage in the UK during the 70's? It was a total fabrication to push up the price. At the time I worked for United dairies as a Saturday person. The warehouses were full from floor to roof, I was allowed a kilo and my Mum was delighted, problem was she told all her friends ^#(^

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It happens all the time back in the late 60s there was a Hugh shortage of plaster board, at the time I was building a property near Fleet Hampshire and drove past a Hugh warehouse set in woods full to the roof with sheets of it.

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Its called supply and demand, cut or stop the supply and the demand will increase, name your price time :) :)


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Time to churn your own?

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Please note that there is now a "Butter shortage" topic :)


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 Post subject: Re: Glyphosate
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Time to churn your own?


Been there done that, but not for many years.
As a kid it was one of my jobs to turn the butter maker, at a steady rate and low betide me if I went to fast.

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 Post subject: Re: Glyphosate
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It seems Monsanto may be having more problems . . .

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-0 ... de-problem

As I recall Dicamba is a broad-leaf herbicide - the neighbour used it on wheat etc - but it was useless against black grass.

Anyhow, apropos of what I said before about Monsanto doing themselves no favours, they are at least consistent!

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On Arte fr a follow up programme by Marie-Monique Robin was shown on 17 october, revealing more of how many people through out the world have been killed,maimed,or otherwise made ill by roundup. The programme it's being shown on Arte on line till December and a DVD is available from arte.fr

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Papibryn wrote:
On Arte fr a follow up programme by Marie-Monique Robin was shown on 17 october, revealing more of how many people through out the world have been killed,maimed,or otherwise made ill by roundup. The programme it's being shown on Arte on line till December and a DVD is available from arte.fr


Tell me about it I was one of them, Cancer. :( :(


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My heart goes out to you , spectrum2

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 Post subject: Re: Glyphosate
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My heart goes out to you, spectrum2

Mine too :(


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 Post subject: Re: Glyphosate
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This might be an answer to Glyphosate, https://www.osmobio.com/osmobio-alternative-glyphosate/

Also sorry to hear about your cancer, spectrum2

There is a lot of nasty stuff about, that the powers that be dont tell you about, like that the Yanks had sprayed agents orange, purple, etc over a Canadian training ground, with the permission of the Canadian armed forces, that we were going to play war games over the ground that had been sprayed, two months later, and I only found this out years later when reading about Canadian forces payouts for those affected, on a Canadian Veterans website

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Thanks but it was a long time ago, when I left school I worked for the local parks department and went to Agri/Horti collage, we did use a lot of chemicals, the training was basic, after two years I left and joined the medical profession, a while later I was diagnosed with bladder cancer, I had an op and chemo and five years of checkups, ie camera up your bellend, those plate cameras stung a bit :D and as for the blokes head. #:-s I was lucky, the reason it was caught early is that near the town there was two chemical plants, one making various chemicals and one making dyes, so all the local doctors had seen plenty of cases before me. Spec


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 Post subject: Re: Glyphosate
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That's an interesting change of direction, Spec !
Early diagnosis is vital and so many checks are available today ... yet many don't/won't take advantage of them. Those of us who have been caught early have much to be thankful for !

That said, no-one knew what some of these things would have on our health years later : chemicals, asbestos and fossil fuels for starters.


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The change of direction was due to the two most powerful forces know to man, Love And Money, the love, with that one, didn't last long afterwards :(( the job lasted a few decades :-bd. Spec


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Just heard on the news, UK will also be banning this and keeping the ban even after we leave the EU.

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Methinks there is some confusion. Michael Gove has said the UK will ban neonicotinoid insecticides post Brexit:

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-41931670

However as yet, there is no Glyphosate ban:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-41928007

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Oops!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-0 ... cres-crops

3.6 million acres of spray drift (equivalent to 12% of France's arable land) - that's quite a lot (although probably due in part to inept aerial spraying).

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niemeyjt wrote:
Methinks there is some confusion. Michael Gove has said the UK will ban neonicotinoid insecticides post Brexit:

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-41931670

However as yet, there is no Glyphosate ban:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-41928007

J

Yes, definitely better info than a radio news story, still a step in the right direction.

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