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 Post subject: Re: Do's and Dont's of Living in France...
PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 8:05 am 
I have never been able to get any French person to correct my pronunciation or grammar, even when I have asked them.
The only time I have ever had any problems in being understood was in Corsica, but it was obvious that the young barman was just being awkward - it is not hard to understand 'panache'.
No matter how poor your French is, the fact that you attempt it seems to endear you to people.


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Can anyone tell me when it changes from one to another e.g.
From bonjour to Bon Appetit
From bonjour to bon apres midi
From bon apres midi to bon fin de l'apres midi,
From bon fin de l'apres midi to bon soir?
From bon journee to bon soiree


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 Post subject: Re: Do's and Dont's of Living in France...
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Can anyone tell me when it changes from one to another e.g.
From bonjour to Bon Appetit - Bonjour is "Good Day" - Bon Appetit is for mealtimes only, as in "Good appetite", enjoy your meal
From bonjour to bon apres midi - Bon aprés midi is for after midday
From bon apres midi to bon fin de l'apres midi - I'm sure either will do after midday, although bon fin de l'aprés midi is a bit of a mouthful, especially on a cold day!
From bon fin de l'apres midi to bon soir - Bonsoir is for evening, usually after 6pm, but I've asked some French this and even they shrug!!
From bon journee to bon soiree - Bon soirée is just for evening


You can also also say "Bon fin de journée"! - the list is endless! Stick to something short and sweet.
If anyone wants to correct me - please do!!! ;)

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Where we are they also say Bonsoir in the morning! Very bizarre. :lol:

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Where we are they also say Bonsoir in the morning! Very bizarre. :lol:


Perhaps they haven't been to bed yet!! Night birds!

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Would you like a new thread for weights and measurements? I was kind of hoping this would remain an informative thread!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Do's and Dont's of Living in France...
PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 11:50 am 
There was one Bayleaf ages ago. Another wouldn't hurt?

Ooh, one thing I do . . . if ever I have a problem (admin or what ever) I go and see the people I need to see and get the problem sorted in a morning (if ever up that early) or an afternoon. Others I know refuse to go to the prefecture, too far, in a big town, or whatever and still are battling with the problem weeks months later. So, get up, get out and the problem is soon dealt with . . . . simples :-bd .


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 Post subject: Re: Do's and Dont's of Living in France...
PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 11:59 am 
Im not that elderly. I use both imperial and metric quite easily depending on how I feel or what I am doing. Cant see the problem myself. Then you have American[Australian] measures for cooking. Flexibility of the mind is very important, what ever age you are, and anything that gives it a work-out is good in my eyes. Mind you I have always loved numbers so I am a bit biased. :) Sorry Bayleaf just read your post. Well to bring it back. Do embrace the metric system whilst living in France. :D


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I've started another thread for weights and measurements - where you can discuss it to your hearts' content!!! Please! ;) :D

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If you value your life, don't try to use the zebra crossings in the same way as the UK.
Traffic stopping seems to be an optional extra.

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When you write a cheque, etc, remember a UK decimal point, is a continental Europe decimal comma. could make a BIG difference.

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Naylor's Ark wrote:
Where we are they also say Bonsoir in the morning! Very bizarre. :lol:


Yes, I've wondered about that, too; after being wished 'Bonsoir' when leaving the bakery in Sainte Severe I asked an old lady living in our hamlet why this was, but she didn't seem to understand what I meant!

I think 'soiree' can mean afternoon as well as evening - I don't know if this is just local to the Berry, though.


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 Post subject: Re: Do's and Dont's of Living in France...
PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:50 pm 
Don't be afraid to say septante, huitante and neuftante or nonante. If you glare hard enough the french will understand - well, the young(er) ones will.


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Don't expect a French person to admit they are wrong, even if it's glaringly obvious. Hell will freeze over first!
When in a queue, be prepared to wait a very loooooog time while they sort out the first person in line. Even if it means having to listen to what "the lady on the corner is up to with so and so!"
The up side, they do make sure you are equally attended to when it's your turn. :)

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Don't be afraid to say septante, huitante and neuftante or nonante. If you glare hard enough the french will understand - well, the young(er) ones will.


and the Swiss will be very happy - so much more logical then counting in scores and 10 (or 12, etc). It's particularly annoying when French give you a phone number and say quatre-vingt (you of course write 80) followed treize- so you have to scribble your 80 and write 93.

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 Post subject: Re: Do's and Dont's of Living in France...
PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 12:46 pm 
Perhaps I've been watching too much "la France A Un Incroyable Talent" and paying too much attention to Gilbert Rozon :lol: !


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Don't expect anyone to answer your emails. If they do, look on it as a nice bonus.

A case in point - I have recently sent 5 emails to companies who sell or quarry granite. I have had 1 reply (and they don't sell it). Don't they want the business?


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I know it sounds grusome, but don't die in France, as its a lot more complicated to sort out the paperwork. If you intend to spend your remaining years in France, then it might be a good idea to prepare any paperwork , such as who is in family and might under French law have some entitlement. Don't expect the French authorities to know what is required.

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 Post subject: Re: Do's and Dont's of Living in France...
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Don't die in France - that one may be out of our control!!!

I think we need some positive Do's about France before we all get depressed!!!!

Do remember that in certain ways life in France is similar to how life in the UK used to be when many of us claim it was a good country to live in. Yes, many things do take longer, life is generally slower, but can we not embrace that? How did we get jobs done before we had internet? That's still quite a recent thing for many companies here.

I use the fax here, some might say it's obsolete - but it works for me better than a phone call, as it's something in writing that gets printed off - otherwise a letter gets sent.

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 Post subject: Re: Do's and Dont's of Living in France...
PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:26 pm 
Do use the "vous" form when speaking to people you are not intimate or close with. People from Africa (Algeria, Morocco, etc.) usually use the tu-toi form to everybody as its the usual thing to do in their culture to express amity, informality or goodwill, but the France bred French specially the older generation would give you more respect if you start from "vous".


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If a Frenchman says it is not possible or it cannot be done, it may mean "I do not know and I am not going to try to find out" rather than it is impossible.


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If a Frenchman says it is not possible or it cannot be done, it may mean "I do not know and I am not going to try to find out" rather than it is impossible.


And if you wait, smile and say "on peut..." (one can) rather than "vous" very often solutions are found. :)

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bayleaf wrote:
Don't die in France - that one may be out of our control!!!


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Oh goodness, what a long list!!!! But dont forget PLEASE DO relax and enjoy life. If you get things wrong, its usually fixable. If you worry about every little faux pas, you will have no time to relish the experience of being in France. In my experience, the French arent sitting in judgement. They know things are different where you come from and expect you to behave differently. Please DONT disappoint them :))


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As to e-mail, if they have not responded... just ask if they understand about e-mail in the fgollow up or need a printed version sent in the post with a stamp... Suddenly you get, we are very modern in France and of course we understand email, followed by response to your last 6 e-mails and fruitful exchanges thereafter. Pride is the approach!

DO take out legal insurance, your neighbour may just turn out to be a rich bitch from hell even if it is a maison secondaire for the old bat.

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Please, is there a list anywhere on your forum about the way to register a UK car in France? In very simple language? For instance, what exactly is a CofC, what does it look like and where do you get it from? This would be helpful for single women as well as women who do all the 'home work' because their chaps don't 'do' computers. Thanks


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a cofC is more than likely a letter of conformity from your vehicle manufacturer once you have that and your headlights changed for continental driveing get a ct ,insurance and the its off to your local prefecture to fill in a multitude of forms good luck with it all especialy the last bit


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Sillysally - there is a new topic :
http://www.thefranceforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=14183


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Don't tell people you're English

They"ll work it out for themselves !!!


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:37 pm 
Make sure you understand the law regarding Cancellation of Insurance Policies or you may have a day like mine.


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Yes, Mistigris, it's as well to check out cancellation clauses. When we left France for Spain, I wrote to our Mutuelle company to cancel it. They wrote back and said we had to pay another nine months because it ran from year to year. I argued the point (from Spain), and eventually they gave up trying to get the money out of us.


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It's worth noting this helpful sticky from MAD on cancelling insurance policies :
http://www.thefranceforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=14169&p=196374&hilit=insurance#p196374


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:18 pm 
They are great but mine is all a bit more involved.


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Bayleaf wrote:
kedge wrote:
Can anyone tell me when it changes from one to another e.g.
From bonjour to Bon Appetit - Bonjour is "Good Day" - Bon Appetit is for mealtimes only, as in "Good appetite", enjoy your meal
From bonjour to bon apres midi - Bon aprés midi is for after midday
From bon apres midi to bon fin de l'apres midi - I'm sure either will do after midday, although bon fin de l'aprés midi is a bit of a mouthful, especially on a cold day!
From bon fin de l'apres midi to bon soir - Bonsoir is for evening, usually after 6pm, but I've asked some French this and even they shrug!!
From bon journee to bon soiree - Bon soirée is just for evening


You can also also say "Bon fin de journée"! - the list is endless! Stick to something short and sweet.
If anyone wants to correct me - please do!!! ;)

Juste a detail, but you should say "Bonne fin de journée", bon is for masculine nouns


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But 'fin' which is the noun which the adjective qualifies, is masculine.


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