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 Post subject: Johnny Hallyday RIP
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Not sure French Elvis, maybe more Cliff Richard?

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 Post subject: Re: Johnny Hallyday RIP
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There'll be no point watching French TV news or listening to radio news today, it'll be wall to wall Johnny, even if WW3 breaks out.
Even terrorists could have a hard time getting publicity.

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 Post subject: Re: Johnny Hallyday RIP
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Expected I think after his last hospital emergency. It'll dominate the TV news for the next month, much more than will Chirac or Giscard. Even one of my children talks fondly of 'Johnny'.
Just crossed with Liz's post. Yes, there won't be anything left uncovered.

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 Post subject: Re: Johnny Hallyday RIP
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Agree no more news for ages and he was only 74. But the way he lived its amazing that he lasted that long.
Never liked him myself.

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 Post subject: Re: Johnny Hallyday RIP
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niemeyjt wrote:
Not sure French Elvis, maybe more Cliff Richard?
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No, definitely not a French Cliff Richard - he was too much of a rocker :lol:

There's been a fair amount about him in the press a lot recently as he's been unwell for some time. Yes, French telly will be full of him ... I remember hearing about 'Johnny' in passing when I was a teenager but for someone so popular in France, I'm not sure he's quite as well known outside ...

Not a great fan, but I like this one, much more gentle than his raunchy stuff :



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I actually like some of his stuff as heard on Nostalgie and thanks to iTunes, have captured them.


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I actually like some of his stuff as heard on Nostalgie and thanks to iTunes, have captured them.

WHAT? :o He was SO simplistic compared to UK or US musicians of the same era!

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I actually like some of his stuff as heard on Nostalgie and thanks to iTunes, have captured them.
Musical taste is such a personal thing, isn't it, Thibault? ;) Have you come across his double album 'A La Vie, A La Mort'? There are some cracking songs on it.....at least, I like them. 8-) :-s

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Well, I do like some of his stuff - he can sound quite melodic - my favourite is Ne m'oublie pas! Musical taste, rather like beauty, is quite personal :D I haven't heard that album Noisette, but will look out for it.


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Agree no more news for ages and he was only 74. But the way he lived its amazing that he lasted that long.
Never liked him myself.



Ditto. And he wasn't even French!

Rip quand même.

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He was born in Paris, tenuous I know!
Jeez - 6 channels of Johnny on TV last night! Loads of my biker friends are in mourning. 8-|

I don't know any of his songs but i always want to sing

'optique deux mille' every time I see a picture of him.

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Ditto. And he wasn't even French!

Rip quand même.

An important quality in a french singer. After all, neither was Jacques Brel.


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Elstow wrote:
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Ditto. And he wasn't even French!

Rip quand même.

An important quality in a french singer. After all, neither was Jacques Brel.

nor Celine Dion

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"Was he popular in England" my wife's hairdresser asked. Non, was the uncompromising reply! Nevertheless RIP Johnny.


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liz wrote:
Elstow wrote:
Bayleaf wrote:

Ditto. And he wasn't even French!

Rip quand même.

An important quality in a french singer. After all, neither was Jacques Brel.

nor Celine Dion


nor Carla Bruni - if she can be classed as a singer!

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niemeyjt wrote:
liz wrote:
Elstow wrote:
Bayleaf wrote:

Ditto. And he wasn't even French!

Rip quand même.

An important quality in a french singer. After all, neither was Jacques Brel.

nor Celine Dion


nor Carla Bruni - if she can be classed as a singer!

J


Partially right J, at least the word I am thinking of begins with an S

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niemeyjt wrote:
liz wrote:
Elstow wrote:
Bayleaf wrote:

Ditto. And he wasn't even French!

Rip quand même.

An important quality in a french singer. After all, neither was Jacques Brel.

nor Celine Dion


nor Carla Bruni - if she can be classed as a singer!

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Oh please!!!!!! %-(

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Carla Bruni has to be at the bottom of the pile %-(


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Mr Scooby has one of her albums

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It can't be anything to do with her voice though!!!

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Perhaps the cause of his cancer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9VVv87vggA

60 years of smoking Gauloise all OK 4 years of chemical drugs pauf!


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 Post subject: Re: Johnny Hallyday RIP
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I don't know any of his songs, but those that have been played on TV since his death do not seem to be rockers to me, far from, more ballads.

Perhaps I have heard some in the past without knowing who was singing, which always prompted me to say that rock and roll just doesn't sound right in French. Give me chanson everytime.

However, and I might have mentioned this before, at our local night market I heard the opening chords of 'Get It On' and hurried to the end of the street where the bandstand was. By the time I got there the singer had joined in and I thought that somehow Marc Bolan had come back to earth and landed in France

It was brilliant, at least as good if not better than the original, and all in French. So I had to eat my words, maybe if I really have heard Johnny, I just didn't like what I heard.

My favourite French song (apart from Piaf of course) 'Le Vent Nous Portera' by Noir Desir. Haunting. But when I thought to buy the album it was on, didn't like a single other track. :(

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I like a lot of French music but then I love music in a minor key and the French are innately sentimental. I was a huge fan of Jean-Jacques Goldman in the 80s but there came a time when he stopped singing anything new. The radio is full of his old stuff :( I was also a fan of Gérald de Palmas but his songs all started to sound the same :(
Then there was Michel Polnareff who I adored in the late 60s .... then Georges Moustaki and Michel Le Forestier .... good sentimental stuff !

But Clo Clo ...... big thumbs down :-q


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And what stupidity, Saturday Paris comes to a standstill as his courtage passes through the city.
A bigger sendoff than a president.
Or perhaps i'm being like the third posts down.

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And someone's nicked the street sign that was named after him:

"Christian Estrosi a annoncé qu'une rue de Nice serait prochainement baptisée Johnny Hallyday. Mais le rockeur avait déjà une rue à son nom, dans la commune de Charvieu-Chavagneux en Isère.
48 heures après le décès de la star, le panneau de la rue a malheureusement disparu.
D'après les informations de France 3 Auvergne-Rhône Alpes, le vol aura eu lieu dans la nuit de jeudi à vendredi. "Je comprends qu'ils les aient volés, on est la seule commune de France à avoir une rue Johnny Hallyday", a confié le maire de Charvieu-Chavagneux, Gérard Dezempte, amusé, à France 3. Au total, cinq des huit panneaux de la rue Johnny Hallyday ont été dérobés. Le poteau et le bloc en béton de 40kg de l'un d'eux ont également été emportés, a précisé l'édile, qui ne compte cependant pas porter plainte . De nouveaux panneaux seront prochainement installés. Gérard Dezempte propose même aux admirateurs de Johnny de leur envoyer une reproduction des plaques."


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And what stupidity, Saturday Paris comes to a standstill as his courtage passes through the city.
A bigger sendoff than a president.
Or perhaps i'm being like the third posts down.




700 Grandad rockers on Harleys. That'll please what's her face Hildago!

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liz wrote:
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I actually like some of his stuff as heard on Nostalgie and thanks to iTunes, have captured them.

WHAT? :o He was SO simplistic compared to UK or US musicians of the same era!


I agree Liz. He had a pleasant voice for singing ballads but not the charisma of a rock star. And him standing with his legs spread out aping Elvis was just bizarre at his age.

But then the French have so few personalities to worship.


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I can only believe he was so popular in France because he was the mediocre among the dross. French pop music generally leaves me cold and as for the "classic" "Comme d'habitude", good grief, thank the gods for Sinatra! (I know it wasn't one of Hallidays before anyone comments)


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I can only believe he was so popular in France because he was the mediocre among the dross. French pop music generally leaves me cold and as for the "classic" "Comme d'habitude", good grief, thank the gods for Sinatra! (I know it wasn't one of Hallidays before anyone comments)

Here we must diverge! I have 'Comme d'habitude' interpreted by Sardou. I'd take that over Sinatra & the English version any day. I have around 20 French songs in that compilation which I love.
However, the French are not brilliant when it comes to popular music, imho.

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No, they just copy the music from others and change the lyrics.

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But I hasten to add, there is also some fantastic modern bands coming from France. Using English mainly in their music too to appeal to a wider audience. Recently saw up and coming Isaac Delusion in concert. very good live! Real musicians.

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Well he's certainly getting a good send-off.

All the compilation CDs should boost the market leading up to Christmas.


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No, they just copy the music from others and change the lyrics. :-

Not always !
"Comme d'habitude" was written in 1967 by Claude "Cloclo" François. Elvis and Frank Sinatra copied the music and changed the lyrics into English "My Way" ;;)

Same for "Ne me quitte pas" (If you go away)
"Feelings" was given English lyrics in 1974 to a tune "Pour toi" (later to become "Dis lui") written in 1957 by Louis “Loulou” Gasté.
There are many more but you can google them !


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I must admit on holiday in Paris in 1966 I heard in a club a song which I thought may have been "C'est, c'est la vie" as this was repeated a lot during it's performance. I tried various record shops to buy it but no-one had heard of it. Anyone any ideas?


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It's called "Et moi et moi et moi" by Jacques Dutronc ! It's certainly one I remember from those days :



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