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I've just collected my new glasses - they are for reading and computer work, so I guess "progressive" is the same as varifocals?

What I find weird, is that there seems to be a focal point for reading, where the nice lady in the shop said I would have to move my head to read, to keep that point focused on the bit I'm reading, and each side is blurry. Is this normal? I'm a pretty fast reader, and already I feel it's akin to watching a tennis match. I'm used to keeping my head still and my eyes moving.

Perhaps I've asked for the wrong thing with my rusty "optical French" vocab? :-? I'd said I'd try it out, as she says it takes a while to adjust, but it feels like only one small part of the lens is actually helping me.

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They take a short while to get used to. Don't walk down stairs without actually looking down.

The head movement will become automatic.


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So it is normal then? They're for moving from focusing on the monitor to then looking down at paperwork, entering data on spreadsheets and the like. One lens is "plan", so my lazy eye doesn't try to work - which I'm hoping will then mean no more migraines! :YMPRAY:

Why do they make only one point of the lens the focus point?

(Good tip about not wearing them while going downstairs).

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I have varifocals for reading and computer work, and I also use them for driving/middle distance. They are absolutely brilliant.
However, I'm surprised the woman in the shop said you should move your head around - that was exactly what I was told not to do !! I look straight ahead for the 'puter and, not moving my head, I look down for reading !

I agree with Dave about looking down when you walk downstairs, though mine are not so strong it makes a huge difference.


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Well, here's a funny thing. I was looking up some youtube clips to research learning more about progressive lenses and how to get on with them, and there's lots of clips about improving your eyesight naturally with exercises. I've often wondered if this were possible, and I think they have a point. Just like exercising our bodies keeps problems at bay (I'm a Pilates fanatic), why not similar with the eyes?

An optician told me years ago that it was natural with age to lose some clarity of sight, but the more you wear glasses the lazier your eyes will become. By wearing progressives, you're encouraged to keep your pupils still and move your head - thus letting your eyes get lazier, to further deteriorate, with is what glasses manufacturers want.

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I shall be adding pupil/eye exercises to my regime, and see what happens! :-B

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Many people become longer-sighted with age, which I have been assured by various opticians is normal ! I have also been told that exercising the eye muscles won't necessarily help reduce age-related problems, such as macular degeneration and cataracts !
That said, it does seem a good idea to keep the muscles working.

I still don't understand the logic of keeping your pupils still. When I wear my varifocals, I move my pupils and head in the same way that I do when I'm not wearing them. I raise my pupils to look at the telly, drop them mid-way to play on the ordi then lower them to read. Works a treat :)


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I cannot comment on whether the head movement is normal or not.

When in Germany I got my first set of varifocal glasses and was offered three grades.
One was extremely clear across all areas of vision.
The third was clear for long vision but had a rather narrow window of clear view for close work/reading.
The second quality was between the two.

Needless to say the cost of the lenses increased very markedly as the quality of vision improved. I opted for the middle quality.

Having now had to get replacements in France following a change in prescription I was not offered a choice of quality, but these new glasses are as good as if not a little better than the pair they replaced. Maybe the optician decided that he should apply an equivalent quality. It did not occur to me to question this until your question here.

I am sure that had I opted for the cheaper quality in Germany I would have had to move my head to read and work at the computer screen. In fact the optician intimated there would be drawbacks saying that if I read a lot or used a computer frequently he would not recommend the lowest quality.

I might well be tempted to return to the optician in you position.

It sounds as if you have been given something close to this lowest quality

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Bayleaf, just two weeks today with my varifocals (first pair). Better for long and intermediate distance but not good at the computer or significantly better when looking at the car dashboard/sat nav which disappointed slightly.

There are difference in the quality of the lenses as others have said mine from Glasses2you are suposedly "close to the freeform" but no where near the price.
I too have a plano lens in the right eye and although the varifocal lens is good the quality of the plano is bad, major distortion compared to my other 3 pairs of old glasses. That discussion is on going.

Interested in how you get on a computer distance reading and typing?

Explanation of varifocal lenses:
https://www.glassesdirect.co.uk/help-va ... -bifocals/

I spoke to an optometrist at Moorefields eye hospital and she confirmed that eye muscle is different in makeup to other muscles and doesn't respond to exercise otherwise they could have cured most sight problems years ago. No harm in trying though, I did for a year on and off but it didn't change anything for me.

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It sounds as if my varifocals are the first version that Lastoneout mentions. My long sight is excellent and I find the varifocals I have (tested and bought at Specsavers UK) are brilliant for everything : driving (middle distance), and computer and reading. I hadn't realised how unclear the TV was until wearing these specs.

I had no idea there were different quality varifocals - I wasn't offered a choice. However, having clearly got the best quality, I wouldn't change them for the world.

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I'm getting a little more accustomed to them. It's just the fuzzy bit on the bottom right that's a bit annoying. I don't need them for distance or driving etc. I asked purely for switching from computer screen to reading paperwork for my accounting work.

I bought some reading glasses from Spex4less, plus some prescription sunglasses - they're both brilliant (and priced well!) for general reading, but I needed something more specialised for the computer work, which Spex4less couldn't do with the prescription I was given. Perhaps it's just a case of getting them adjusted slightly so it doesn't feel like I'm looking more to the right than I feel I should.

At the end of the day, you gets what you pays for - and as I'm a CMU bod, I'm sure I'm on a special tariff! I'll give it a couple more days and see how it goes. My right eye doesn't do any reading, so the plane side is purely to stop me looking more weird! :D I'm a bit young for a monocle! ;))

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That's good to know Blaze, are you tilting your head back much to read? obviously the prescription would have an effect mine is -2.25, inter +1.00 and near +1.75
Mine are great for distance and mid range i.e. TV watching etc it's the close up that's my issue. Just sent off another email to Glasses2You as it's the plano lens that's causing me issues it's like a fish eye lens at the edges for distortion. They need a better Plano lens!

Bayleaf, as you don't need distance viewing and just computer and reading (roughly similar ) I would have thought a fixed lens would be far better as the varifocals have the trade off blur at the left and right edges.

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Teapot, I move my head in exactly the same the way that I would if I wasn't wearing specs.

The only thing I do find is if I look at the edge of the table or a straight line, it does bend a bit at the edges !! But I am assured that that is normal and they can't correct for that. I imagine that if the lenses are small, the problem would be more exaggerated.

The first pair of varifocals, which I can still use, was specifically for the computer and copy-typing. But watching the TV and anything else is blurred - they weren't intended or that.

One tip : If you want varifocals for driving/middle distance as well as reading and computer work, the optician suggested that largish frames would be much easier. She was right and whilst they may look a bit schoolmarm-ish, I simply don't notice I'm wearing them. I don't wear them all the time, just for the purpose for which they were bought.


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I see (haha) Similar to bayleaf then. I suppose I wanted the best of all worlds but for normal reading off come the glasses altogether. I guess wanting distance and medium close is why I have to lift my head slightly, makes sense.
I have that annoying bit with blurring from just beyond reading distance to computer range so now I either go back to my single vision lens for the PC or lean slightly back in the chair. The plano lens issue is something I am trying to get sorted as that's blurring unless I close one eye but only with the Glasses2You pair all my others with plano in the right eye are fine.

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Teapot wrote:
Bayleaf, as you don't need distance viewing and just computer and reading (roughly similar ) I would have thought a fixed lens would be far better as the varifocals have the trade off blur at the left and right edges.

Could that blurring at the edges be to do with the size of the lenses, i.e. are the lenses quite small ?


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I've worn progressive lenses for years as the world is incredibly blurred without them, near or far. I was told, ages ago in England that there were three qualities and an optician here has said the same. I have a middle range pair I think and the only problem I have is that, when driving, I can't see clearly when I look over my shoulder when reversing - can be a bit interesting at times. Papi says that finally I might get used to wing mirrors. I do find that when I'm knitting or doing any kind of close work for any length of time, when I look up the world is blurred, but that's not the glasses, it's my eyes that now take a long time to refocus when they've been at the same point for a long time. Isn't getting older fun!

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Blaze wrote:
Teapot wrote:
Bayleaf, as you don't need distance viewing and just computer and reading (roughly similar ) I would have thought a fixed lens would be far better as the varifocals have the trade off blur at the left and right edges.

Could that blurring at the edges be to do with the size of the lenses, i.e. are the lenses quite small ?

Yes because my heads quite small :D
The blurring is normal as it's the area between lens strengths. It's like a bifocal but the harsh join has been smoothed out.

The blurring on my plano lens (not really a lens just flat plain window) is just down to poor manufacture but not being blind in that eye it's having an overall effect on my vision but those glasses are going back today for checking.

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It's an interesting topic as I had no idea about the different quality lenses. Optical glass is incredibly expensive (ask any photographer !) because of the wastage. I imagine that even a plano lens of good quality glass would not be cheap.

From what I read here, there are many factors to consider : your own eye problems, the type of varifocal lenses you need, the size of the lenses and of course the quality of the glass.

My glasses aren't cheap and it's the glass not the frames that bump up the price. The optician told me that large frames would work better than smaller ones and clearly they have sold me the best quality glass. I have never had problems with blurring between lens strengths nor any distortion. They really are multi-purpose and sometimes I forget that I'm actually wearing them.


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I think I'll be going back to raise some questions too. Reading a book or a medium sized computer screen is giving me neck ache as I'm constantly having the move my head from left to right to keep the focal point on what I'm reading/writing. They're good glasses for distance - but that wasn't my request. It'll be interesting to see what they say (and what they'll do without wanting to charge me extra)! Having this blurriness each side all the time is also making me feel quite queasy, and I keep thinking the glasses need cleaning!

Always extra challenging when it's not French dialogue you're used to! A bit of preparation needed for this one, me thinks!

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Bayleaf - I got my first pair of varifocals from Krys for reading books and for my laptop. A year or so later, when I went for an eye test in the UK and showed them my French glasses, they told me that they were too strong. Fortunately I never wore them for long periods at a time but it made me wonder if they could have caused any problems if I had.


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That's interesting! :-? I personally think that if you don't need glasses all the time, the less you wear them the better - as it stops your eyes relying on them and getting lazier.

There's a big question over the actual cost of glasses in general, globally. Some say it's one of the biggest cons that we can't do anything about. My (CMU) glasses here cost just under 200€, something similar from Spex4Less would be about £50/£60. So, I can understand I'll be receiving the cheapest grade of glass etc. here, but it's still way way more expensive than the UK.

Another minefield! 8-|

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Blaze wrote:
It's an interesting topic as I had no idea about the different quality lenses. Optical glass is incredibly expensive (ask any photographer !) because of the wastage. I imagine that even a plano lens of good quality glass would not be cheap.


Ah now we get to the subject of rip offs. On my trip to Thailand a few years back I bought some glasses. Before I left the UK, the total cost of the glasses from D&A was (sit down) £360!

In a proper opticians in the centre of Bangkok (stirling eqivalent) £26 and they included the sunglasses too. Made in the time it takes to drink a coffee.

Being a geek I had a chat with the optician and they showed me the lenses all top names and how they quickly cut the lens to fit the frames with a dedicated lens trimming machine.

When I got back to the UK my SIL was looking at a business which I put her off completely and showed the glasses and costs. She set up Sight Station and made a bloody great fortune and sold it to Foster grants the other year for another bloody great fortune

Photographic lenses are very expensive but glasses are cheap and plano is very cheap but should still be flat (except for the obvious curve required) mine are distorted and towards the edges really bad compared to all of my other pairs.

Bayleaf do go back, I am not surprised they are good at distance but I was surprised Blaze had such a good pair for close to middle distance. Mine are for driving and dashboard distance really but I had hoped they would cope at computer distance too but maybe that is expecting too much or maybe it was down to the original prescription I don't know but would like to hear how you get on.

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Will do Teapot! I've just been watching some YouTube clips by a lady who seems to know a lot about glasses. She stresses that progressives are not actually good for long periods of computer work as there are too many variables there.

I strictly didn't ask for distance in my initial request, so that bit of the glasses is pointless to me. I wonder how I stand on asking just for computer glasses?

As an aside, I took my old pair of rimless glasses to the opticiens, as recommended by one of our local nurses. As I said I only needed the left lens replacing, as the right side was plano, and I wanted to re-use the frames, it could well be cheaper. Wrong! For a complete new pair of them doing all the work; 280€. To replace ONE lens on existing frames - nearly 600€! :shock: Really? REALLY?!!! Plus; looking through them again, the top half is for computer screen, the bottom half for reading - no blurs, no noticeable lines. Perhaps I should have gone back to the same opticiens! 8-|

Apparently it takes a week to get used to progressives, but I don't want to wear them all the time, and it's not what I asked for. As Arni said "I will be back!"!! :lol:

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Yes, Bayleaf, the more I read, the more of a minefield it seems to be !

I think staring at a computer screen for long periods at a time isn't a good idea though for some it's obviously a necessity. I think this probably boils down to glare and keeping your eyes at a fixed distance for too long.

I like the frames of my one and only pair of French glasses (the computer and reading ones). I asked Optic 2000 how much it would cost to put just plain reading lenses into them at my prescription and they told 30€. So I suspect it really does depend where you go. And the same goes for the competence of the optician ....


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Bayleaf wrote:
I've just been watching some YouTube clips by a lady who seems to know a lot about glasses. She stresses that progressives are not actually good for long periods of computer work as there are too many variables there.

Won't all those variables be better give your eyes a workout keep changing the focal length compared to single vision lenses?

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No. It gave me neck ache and a wopping migraine.

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It sounds as if it's down to the optician and what sort of lenses he/she has prescribed, and the quality of the glass. There will always be conflicting opinions on the internet and you end up wondering who to believe.

I have sometimes had to sit all day at the computer for work and have never once had a problem with headaches. If you get neck ache, it's probably more to do with the position you are sitting in than anything to do with the glasses ! If your glasses are forcing you to adopt an awkward position, then perhaps the glasses haven't been prescribed for the correct distance to the computer.

There are too many variables, Bayleaf, but if I was not happy with the glasses I had been given, I would keep taking them back until they gave me the right pair. I would have thought that ill-matched glasses would be far worse for your eyes than correct ones, even for sitting all day at a computer.

I can only comment on varifocals based on my own experience. I have been wearing varifocals for about 4 years now, and my eye are different, and corrected for long sight and astigmatism. I was recommended to have large frames to avoid distortion at the sides.
After what I have read here, I would not buy from internet nor would I go for anything but the best quality optical glass, whatever the cost. I would also continue to have my eyes tested in the UK as the testing is more comprehensive there than in France unless you go to an ophthalmologist.


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The neck ache was more from head moving constantly from left to right to keep the bit I was reading in focus.

Sussed it ..... the reading books part is fine - although I'd like the focal "sweet spot" a tad larger. The part right at the bottom for small print is ok. The distance part at the top is fine, although I didn't ask for that. For computer work - absolutely no bleddy good at all, and within five minutes of trying, I get nauseous and my eyes hurt.

So, problem pinpointed ..... back to the shop next week! :|

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Blaze wrote:
After what I have read here, I would not buy from internet nor would I go for anything but the best quality optical glass, whatever the cost. I would also continue to have my eyes tested in the UK as the testing is more comprehensive there than in France unless you go to an ophthalmologist.


There isn't a problem buying from internet glasses suppliers, can't comment on all but the ones I have used all have a satisfaction guarantee in addition to the distance selling directive. The 3 pairs of single vision glasses from different internet companies have been fine with no issues on the the lenses or the plano lens.

This is the first pair of Varifocals so I wasn't sure what to expect with varifocal, as you say the lenses are quite small so from what you have said some issues maybe. With any mass produced item it's possible for a problem and in the case of the plano I can see the distortion and they have been sent back. The lenses are plastic in this case not glass. Freeform lenses cost more for obvious reasons and some manufacturers like Nikon produce better, wider field of vision than the rest and from the UK! I wasn't going to commit to the extra budget for my first pair, but I am trying just to see what they are like. Considering the savings on the best Nikon freeform compared to the high street it's still a no brainer for me.

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Eyesight problems are very personal and it's difficult to comment on someone else's problems. Also, it's not easy to compare notes via cyber space :lol:

Bayleaf - it doesn't sound right to me if you have to move your head from side to side to read - unless you have a huge computer screen and are sitting very close to it ! Yes, definitely back to the shop and be very insistent on exactly what you want. If you haven't got eye problems that require a visit to an ophthalmologist (and they should tell you if you should see one), then they really should be able to sort you out properly. Perhaps it's down to the competence of the optician person you're dealing with .... :(


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It doesn't sound that surprising to me reading up on varifocals before making the decision.
Google images show why at close range there is only a narrow ish band of reading area so moving the head is possibly needed
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=varif ... 20&bih=927

More information on the original varifocal vs freeform and that spec varies as i said Nikon have the best.
http://www.corriganopticians.co.uk/lenses.html

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Interesting reading this thread - my first pair of varifocals where here in France and I opted for the top end with slight but minimum distortion at the edges - they cost me a 1000 euros.

my latest are from specsavers in the UK with their top level lenses at a cost of 300 pounds. the lenses are thicker than the cystaltex - I think that's what the originals are - lenses on the French ones and the distortion is greater but not really a big issue. I can manage.

However, one word of caution. Don't have white tiled floors and two Westie dogs - they disappear when you look down through the bottom of the lenses.


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Took my new progressives back this morning, after a week's trial, and spoke to the nice young man this time. The lady who served me before was also very nice, but I think she liked the sound of her own voice too much and bamboozled me with too many words! @-) I explained the problem and asked how to resolve it, and how I believe I'd stressed in the first place that I wanted just computer/reading glasses. He spoke French very clearly for me, and it was a pleasure getting it sorted. How refreshing!

Anyhoo, the upshot is, I'm having the lens changed for one that is just for computer and reading, with absolute minimum distortion at the side edges. I'll pay a little more, as I had had the cheapest of the cheap before - fair enough. This assistant seemed a lot more proficient, and I look forward to picking up my corrected glasses in one week (or less)..... :-B

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Thanks for the information on nikon/freeform, all completely new to me. I need a new pair of varifocal specs so will save up to get a decent pair with large lenses, I don't care if I end up looking like Brains out of Thunderbirds :shock:

After price shock with my first pair of varifocals in France I went to Specsavers in the UK. Biggest mistake ever, cheaper but absolute tat. Both frames broken within 12 months, lenses scratched; rubbish!

Time to make an appointment with the eye doctor methinks.

Does anybody know which outfits sell the freeform lenses in France and what the terminology is?


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