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 Post subject: Question about Tax D'habitation ...
PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:10 pm 
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I know it's calculated on the tax return that is filed, but for those treated as second/holiday homes? In a couple of instances, I know the owners only submit UK tax returns as their principle residence and work/pension is there. So how do the Direction Générale calculate?

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:47 pm 
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I thought the notional rental value of the property was the prime basis for calculating TdH.

Income become important for those with very low incomes who might be allowed a rebate on their TdH. Second home owners who live abroad are (almost by definition) above the income level to be due a rebate and hence are never considered for one.

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 Post subject: Re: Question about Tax D'habitation ...
PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:00 pm 
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All change - message today for people who pay monthly.

Bonjour,
Vous étiez en 2017 redevable de la taxe d’habitation sur votre résidence principale et vous êtes titulaire d’un contrat de mensualisation pour le paiement de celle-ci.
La réforme nationale de la taxe d’habitation permettra à 80 % des foyers d'être exonérés de taxe d’habitation au titre de leur résidence principale au bout de trois ans, en 2020. Dès 2018, 80 % des foyers verront leur taxe d’habitation sur leur résidence principale diminuer de 30 % (puis de 65 % en 2019).
Cette réforme concerne les foyers dont le revenu fiscal de référence n'excède pas une certaine limite fixée selon le nombre de parts du foyer de taxe d’habitation : par exemple, 27 000 € pour une personne seule, 35 000 € pour une personne seule avec un enfant, 43 000 € pour un couple sans enfant, 49 000 € pour un couple avec un enfant ou 55 000 € pour un couple avec deux enfants.
Pour vous éclairer, un simulateur est à votre disposition sur le site impots.gouv.fr pour vérifier votre éligibilité à la réforme et calculer le montant estimé de votre future taxe d'habitation sur votre résidence principale.
Si vos revenus de 2017 vous rendent bénéficiaire de la réforme de la taxe d’habitation, vous pouvez d’ores et déjà réduire le montant de vos prélèvements mensuels en vous connectant sur votre espace particulier sur impots.gouv.fr. Après vous être identifié, cliquez dans la rubrique « Payer » sur « Modifier mes prélèvements, moduler mes mensualités ».
Toute modulation demandée en janvier prendra effet dès le mois de février.

Nous vous remercions de votre confiance.
La Direction générale des Finances publiques


I don't have any idea how it impacts non residents


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 Post subject: Re: Question about Tax D'habitation ...
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Easy Dave
first line refers to residence principal - non-residents by definition need not apply.

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 Post subject: Re: Question about Tax D'habitation ...
PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:34 am 
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So what is Tax Foncière calculated on? I thought that was connected with a vague rentable value of the property, plus of course local taxes.

I always thought that T d'H was related to your income rather than the property itself?

I guess, as was mentioned above, if it's a second home, the owners already have a pretty good income and it is graded as such.

Good news about the news just out, although we rarely earn enough to be charged more than the TV licence.

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 Post subject: Re: Question about Tax D'habitation ...
PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:19 am 
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Bayleaf wrote:
So what is Tax Foncière calculated on? I thought that was connected with a vague rentable value of the property, plus of course local taxes.

Tax foncière is based on the letting value (valeur locative) of the property though it's pretty artificial. If you have land over and above what they consider to be 'garden size', you could find yourself charged at a higher rate for the excess as it could be considered to be agricultural land.


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 Post subject: Re: Question about Tax D'habitation ...
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This government web site gives full details on the way the TdH anf TF (separate pages for the calculations for the buildings and the land) are calculated and the various exemptions https://www.service-public.fr/particuliers/vosdroits/N206


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