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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 10:51 pm 
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I have done a bit of research, but, to be frank, I'm baffled. We're in the South West-Hautes Pyrenees, to be exact. We put in a dodgy Sky satellite when we bought the house, 11 years ago. I'm aware of the satellite changes, but the damn thing had pretty much given up the ghost before that anyway.

It is now the next thing I have to fix. We have fairly dodgy ADSL, and no possibility of upgrade unless we go to satellite internet. No prospect of visible upgrade, either.

The only thing that's really important is sport. Mainly rugby and football, but, basically sport.

It's not quite "money no object"; I'd like to get us value for money.

Can anyone advise a reliable way of getting British telly in the South West?

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Try this link first, to see if you can get a good reception by satellite http://www.dishpointer.com/, then if you can get a clear line of sight to the satellite, and if you are going to do a DIYit, lay out about a hundred euros and get a Satlink WS-6908 digital sat finder, that you can program it to find the correct satellite, and see on the screen of the machine, what you will be seeing on the TV

This is not the same machine but it shows you how its set up



Also this link might help, http://www.tvcorner.com/en/antenna/signal-meter/index.php

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I have no idea how to read the outcome. It says I have a clear line of site to a 91W Galaxy 17 (G17). I think that's not one that'll be any use, is it?

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Sheila, at the top of the link, you have to put in your location, not Broadway, New York, and then chose which satellite you want, try 28.2E for the Astra range of satellites

These links will give you the satellite footprints, and channels

http://www.satbeams.com/footprints?position=28

http://www.satbeams.com/channels

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Have you looked into the option of getting French sports channels instead? Cheaper and easier than Sky/BT Sports and a pretty good coverage across the board - Canal+ Sport even shows the 3pm kick-off matches (4pm French time of course) in the Premiership that UK TV isn't allowed to show. Good for your French too...

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That would be fine for me, Andrew, but the house is shared, and a fair few have no French at all.

And thank you, Liz. That's useful.

No-one uses Internet TV?

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Unless you have very good internet speeds (and we don't) Internet TV will be a cause of major headache - caused by watching that buffering wheel go round, and round, and round and............

I don't know what your speeds are like in the Haut P, but I would be a bit surprised if they are brilliant in most of the department.

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IPTV is pretty good as long as you have a decent quality connection, as stated. You need to buy an IPTV box and subscribe to a service, I don't know of any free services that will give you UK TV. For a fee, you can get all the channels available in the UK - sports and all.

Here's one http://www.expatvision.net/tv-packages/4578948373, there are quite a few if you look around.


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Hi

what is your internet speed I have used the internet for two years in the Pays Basque and Aude using BBC I player@150KB/s no buffering


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The 4 RWC quarter-finals will be shown by TF1 (channel 1) this weekend. As for PL, canal + is yer man as Andrew says.

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Has anyone tried a fire stick from Amazon? My nephew, who is very good at this sort of thing recommends it, as you can get pay for channels, but also the free stuff, including catch up. I can see no reason why it would not work in France, but I would be interested to know whether anyone has tried it. The link is here:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Amazon-W87CUN-Fire-TV-Stick/dp/B00KAKUN3E/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1447097107&sr=8-2&keywords=fire+stick

Apparently, you can go online to hack it, and then get all sorts of stuff for free, but I can't comment on that.


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You can't order in France using the link you gave. I doubt you can get catch up or any UK channels with a French IP unless you have a VPN or DNS service.

I could be wrong .


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I reckon you'd have to be pretty technically adept to hack a UK Firestick or set up VPN such that you could use it in France as it would be used in the UK. Definitely much easier to get a big dish and a UK sat box.

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I agree, but £35 is pretty good value. It seems you can alter the DNS settings on the device, so you should be able to watch catch up services/Iplayer. There are instructions for the TV fire, which I believe has the same architecture
https://www.smartdnsproxy.com/?afid=296dd5197725


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You could do what we did. We bought a freesat box online from the UK. Then we went into an electrical shop that was a local Pulsat installer.
http://www.pulsat.fr/home
We explained exactly what we wanted, that is connection to the 28.2 Astra satellite telling them we already had a freesat box and they came out and fixed a dish and set it all up. The cost was very reasonable. We just needed to look up a few technical words in French before we went to the shop. They will know what dish size you will need.
If you are not very technically minded it's the easiest way to go for only a modest outlay.

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I had a look at the user manual, and whilst you can use it in the US, Germany and Austria, there is no mention of France. So I think that I shall not be investing after all (unless my nephew's hack works).


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Whilst the Firestick approach gives an upfront saving, assuming the technical workaround does what it claims - and continues to do so over the longer run - and also gives you access to additional services not available through a straightforward FreeSat box, I'd go with datz's solution as the best in the long term. Once paid for, it's free - no monthly fees - so your upfront payment will ultimately work out cheaper than ongoing subscriptions to whatever services are required in order to fool the system into allowing internet access to UK-based services.

It's also worth pointing out that many of those UK-based service providers are busy closing the internet loopholes that allowed access to their content from abroad. There's no guarantee that something that works today will still work in six month's time. But as long as you've got a satellite signal, a FreeSat box will continue to work as it has no way of knowing you're outside the UK.

By all means have a play with the FireStick - we have a Chromecast thingy that's been very useful, though I've never tried to access UK-specific stuff on it. But to rely on it as a primary source for TV viewing would, in my view, be a false economy and a risky one.

Of course the OP's point was wanting to view sport, which is of course a different proposition, and one where a FreeSat box doesn't really help much. Thanks to Sky Sports and BT Sport it's a tricky, and above all, expensive proposition for anyone in the UK today. More so out here. We have a friend locally who has both on a Sky box, and by avoiding the HD mark-up he's managed to keep it down to under £100 a month...

How much is it worth to you?

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With a freesat box you can also change the DNS addresses and watch the catch up channels over the internet and normal stuff via the satellite. The best of both worlds.


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This is where I have to admit I've never tried plugging my FreeSat box into an internet connection!

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There seem to be quite a few freesat boxes on the market at various prices. Can anyone recommend one?


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I would recommend one of the newer Humax boxes that supports Freetime. You just plug the box into your LAN and use the network settings on the Humax box to enter the DNS addresses that you will get from someone like SmartDNS - see my link above.

The freetime interface is much more user friendly than previous versions


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Thanks. They look expensive, but I guess that you get what you pay for.


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Well, I bit the bullet and got the local Pulsat man round. I now have an ugly dish on the house (something I swore that I would never do) and the guy fiddled with the thing for 4 hours without getting near any channels I want. I can't get domestic BBC, ITV, 4 or 5 nor any of the non-terrestrial channels other than BBC World. There seem to be lots of French and German channels, and a fair bit of porn but I can't get anything else.

He brought an Engel RS3320HD box. Never heard of it, but I have only heard of any others on this forum. It went through every number and through the 28.2 sat and a few others as well. Finally he gave up and will come again next week (so no UK tv for Xmas - thankfully, it looks dire). Anyone any suggestions?


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Sounds like you are nicely tuned into Astra at 19 degrees not 28 - although it could equally be one of the ones around zero +/- 5.

If a professional cannot tune into 28 degrees he deserves sacking. I have set up 4 systems to 28 degrees with nothing more sophisticated than a compass. Sorry that is no comfort to you Elstow.

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Did you see what equipment he was using to set up the dish, if it was only signal strength meter, and you are in a "dodgy" place to get the signal you want, its no wonder you cant get the programs you want

The minimum you need is a proper signal strength meter with a screen, which you can see when setting up the dish, and also allows you put in your coordinates of where you are on the ground, then the satellite you want, together with the transponders and polarity, for the transmissions you want to receive, prior to adjusting/fixing the dish to the wall etc

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It does seem to be pointing at 28, and went through all of its permutations but without finding uk tv. The guy came with a pretty impressive looking box with a screen and which produced noises indicating that it had locked on to the correct signal.


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It could produce a noise that indicates that its locked on to a satellite, but if the transponders frequency and polarisation have not been pre-set in the machine, it could be another close by satellite that it has latched on to, it needs both signal strength and quality, together with the right angle (elevation), azimuth (degrees from due south) and LNB skew shown on the machine, to be any good

You only need to be 0.1° in elevation out, and 1° out in the azimuth, to lock on to another satellite, for the bunch of satellites at around 28°

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What box are you using ?


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From Elstows posting, He brought an Engel RS3320HD box

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I took that to mean that's what his installer brought for setting up but the reason for the question was that AFAIK there are few if any unofficial receivers available which are capable of receiving Sky from the Astra cluster and from what I can see so far the Engel RS3320H isn't one of them.


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Yes, it was what the installer brought, but I would be happy with the U.K. Freeview/Freesat channels. Sky doesn't interest me much, and I loath Rupert Murdoch with a passion.


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Two points, one of my compatriots in the village had his satellite dish realigned, after a storm caused it to move, by the local English plum, who got it wrong, so the chap was left with a load of foreign twaddle. Inevitably the phone call came so I went round with what I think is basically a SWA meter, and the actual alteration to the dish was very minimal in order to get the correct satellite, he just runs a Sky package. Secondly I bought a Manhattan Plaza freesat HD box ages ago which sat in the box for yonks', having installed it earlier on in the year I will say that the picture is superb, you can certainly see the difference between that and the Sky box which sits alongside it. Only criticism is that very rarely, normally at the most crucial part of a film, it seems to stutter, break up on the sound, but that quickly disappears. I also run a Humax HD box in the other sitting room, again not as good a picture as the Plaza, and the remote is absolute crap, had to replace it after a minimal amount of use, from memory the Plaza box was just over the £100 mark, whereas the Humax was decidedly more expensive.
Regarding French TV, I recently changed from UKTV as a supplier of broadband and phone, to Orange, and part of the package, which pricewise was about 50% cheaper than the "expat" service, is a French TV decoder. That turned out to be a bit of a gimmick as I don't watch it , and when I have been curious as to what's on it is such a fag to try and re boot it, hopefully I will be able to return that and get an even cheaper deal on the phone / broadband.


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I agree on the Manhattan, I have 2, one in each room (we don't always agree here :- ) and they are excellent but I do get the breakup occasionally which is soon fixed by re-booting. Only takes a moment.

Better than the dearer Humax and, as we never had time to watch recorded programmes, was a waste of money anyway.

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