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 Post subject: New law for fosse septiques?
PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2016 5:41 pm 
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Does anyone know about this sort of scenario?

A village house, with it's own perfectly working fosse, but the maire is saying that the occupant must pay to have the drainage system joined to the communal system - at great expense. The fosse is a 5000L tank, installed 12 years ago, as the house was a B&B business then. Five years ago it was given a "clean" certificate, and there is only one occupant living in the property now. She really, really cannot afford 4 500€ (Devis of local plumber to join communal pipes to house pipes) and wants to know if it is compulsory when she has a perfectly good system.

The last paragraph of the letter says this:-

"Par consequent, même si votre habitation n'est pas raccordée au systéme, les textes m'imposent malheureusement de vous assujettir quand même de la redevance du compter du 1"'juin 2016."

We think it means that even if she keeps her own system, she has to pay a contribution to "mains' drainage. Which she's happy to do, as a couple of hundred euros a year is do-able, whereas 4 500€ really ain't!! She relies on a standard pension.

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 Post subject: Re: New law for fosse septiques?
PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2016 6:13 pm 
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I've heard of people preferring to pay the obligatory sum rather than fork out for the connection. 4,500€ seems an awful lot - has she had other devis ? It does seem ridiculous if the fosse conforms to the norms - why make it obligatory ?


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 Post subject: Re: New law for fosse septiques?
PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2016 6:18 pm 
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I know it's an awkward job, as the digging would have to go through the garage and courtyard. But yes, it seems ridiculous, and unnecessary. Can't help thinking it's a money-making scam for someone. Paranoid? Moi?!!

We'll keep digging - as it were! :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: New law for fosse septiques?
PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2016 6:23 pm 
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There's lots of info out there on the net but sorry, I'm so busy workwise I can't dig the legal texts out for you right now.
I'm pretty sure its Code de la santé publique (art. L.1331-1 à L.1331-16) for starters but then you need others...

Search this phrase 'raccordement au réseau d’assainissement collectif'

This site will come up, & looks good to me:
http://www.village-justice.com/articles ... 20588.html

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 Post subject: Re: New law for fosse septiques?
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Yes, you can pay the communal fees and keep your fosse. Brother in law did that for a similar reason (digging up right across a courtyard)

Can't put up the document but that's what he did.

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 Post subject: Re: New law for fosse septiques?
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Liz’s link gives the 3 conditions that must be fulfilled before connection to the mains becomes obligatory: mains drainage installed on a public road, the building has direct or indirect access to that road and the building is within the mains drainage zone.

There are 5 exemptions, the 5th being that there is an autonomous drainage system (fosse) for the property and that it would be “difficult to connect to the mains” – "difficult" is undefined but capable of interpretation by the courts. So that’s should be the basis of telling the commune to bog off.

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 Post subject: Re: New law for fosse septiques?
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ta Mad, I just didn't have the time to go through it all
I've bookmarked that link for future ref

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 Post subject: Re: New law for fosse septiques?
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Thanks folks. All good ammunition to pass on. It won't be an easy battle, but at least there are some grounds for dispute. :-bd

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 Post subject: Re: New law for fosse septiques?
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The mains aren't near us and we haven't heard that it will be extended up this hill but, I'm pretty sure we already do pay for mains drainage anyway.

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