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 Post subject: Purchase of rough ground ?
PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:44 pm 
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Hi we are 1/2 way thru the purchase of a house in Limoges (87) and there is about 1/2 acre of rough grass and bush land next to the house the estate agent suggested that he could make a few enquiries if the owner would be willing to sell it
Any idea what I should expect to pay for it ?


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 Post subject: Re: Purchase of rough ground ?
PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 7:29 am 
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You'll have to look on line to get an idea. It will depend whether it's agricultural land, whether it's specifically non-constructible (can't be built on) or constructible. The agent should be able to find this out pretty easily. Btw, land is expressed in hectares and parts thereof, 1 hectare being 10k m². Your half-acre is 2k m².

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 Post subject: Re: Purchase of rough ground ?
PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 11:46 am 
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Just to give you an idea - had a look on Le Bon Coin - 4000 m2 (building land) for sale near Bellac at 16€ per m2.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 2:03 pm 
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Thanks for the response . It is non build over grown land would take a jcb and a lot of hard work to make a garden so I would leave it to the wildlife but it would be nice to own just for the privacy
The question is " what price to pay for a bit of privacy" lol


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 Post subject: Re: Purchase of rough ground ?
PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 2:29 pm 
When we bought our house in 1996, we also bought an ajoining hectare of agricutural land decribed by the vendor and the agent as constructible. The farmer, our neighbour, had the right of preemption, but she waived this on condition that she would have first refusal if we decided to sell it at a later date.

We are now planning to sell the land, which will have a much greater value if it is constructible.

We would like to ascertain if it is contructible (all services avaible), but we cannot check with the marie, as our neighbour happens to be the mayor!

So, how can we find that information without giving the game away? Any ideas?


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 4:07 pm 
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Does it matter if you give the 'game away' as he has right to purchase anyway? Perhaps ask a local Notaire or Immobilier - but they are likely to tell him too- if it is a close-knit community. Maybe there is a 'cadastre' on-line?

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 5:13 pm 
Our concern is that the mayor might put obstructions in the way, since planning permission would mean her having to pay a lot more to exercise her preemption right. I guess we could ask a "stranger" to make enquiries about the possibility of obtaing cu.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 5:42 pm 
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I think you can only find the information you need at the mairie, Majic.
As you suggest, get someone else to have a look at the POS (plan d'occupation des sols).

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 7:10 pm 
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Yes good idea, ask a friend who lives in another Commune to make a 'I saw this piece of land and was wondering... blabla' - is there a volunteer here :)

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 Post subject: Re: Purchase of rough ground ?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:25 pm 
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Top Art wrote:
Just to give you an idea - had a look on Le Bon Coin - 4000 m2 (building land) for sale near Bellac at 16€ per m2.

so 1/2acre is worth about ? sorry to sound thick but maths is not my strongpoint :ymblushing:


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stephenpug wrote:
Top Art wrote:
Just to give you an idea - had a look on Le Bon Coin - 4000 m2 (building land) for sale near Bellac at 16€ per m2.

so 1/2acre is worth about ? sorry to sound thick but maths is not my strongpoint :ymblushing:


1/2 acre = 2000 mt², or as near as dammit, so 2000 x 16 = 32000

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 5:41 pm 
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^:)^

peake wrote:
stephenpug wrote:
Top Art wrote:
Just to give you an idea - had a look on Le Bon Coin - 4000 m2 (building land) for sale near Bellac at 16€ per m2.

so 1/2acre is worth about ? sorry to sound thick but maths is not my strongpoint :ymblushing:


1/2 acre = 2000 mt², or as near as dammit, so 2000 x 16 = 32000

^:)^ thanks #-o


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 Post subject: Re: Purchase of rough ground ?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:04 pm 
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That's an enormous amount of money. :shock:

Have a look at the cadastre here - click left to get the parcels : http://www.geoportail.gouv.fr/accueil

It's not building land, so for a bit of ground like that, I'd offer between €800 - €1500 and see what they say.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:19 pm 
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hardworkinghippy wrote:
That's an enormous amount of money. :shock:

Have a look at the cadastre here - click left to get the parcels : http://www.geoportail.gouv.fr/accueil

It's not building land, so for a bit of ground like that, I'd offer between €800 - €1500 and see what they say.

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We bought extra land off a neighbour, we had been living there a few months and got to know him and asked him if he wanted to sell land and left it to him to say a price........couldn't believe that he came back with a very low price.....agrees with hardworking hippy's that it would likely to be around 800 . But it all depends how much the owner wants the land.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 2:56 pm 
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So ... what happened Stephen, did you buy the land?

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Swissie wrote:
So ... what happened Stephen, did you buy the land?

No the person who owns quite a large amount of land around the hamlet also owns a house here but he lives in Paris and wont answer any emails that the estate agent sends him which is a shame because the bit of land i am after is only about 50ft by 25ft and he has not bothered about it for years as it is over grown with brambles and long grass :shock:


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 9:43 am 
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E-mails are just no good in France and will often be ignored. I'd write a letter in person, explaining why you so would love this piece of land.

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I wouldn't gush about it too much though, or the price will go up!! ;)

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Well yes - but e-mails are no good in France with many people. And asking an agent to bid for you may well put up the price too.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 9:31 pm 
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i am going to the cottage on wednesday for 3 weeks Debbie has already been out there 2 weeks (she works in a school) so i will ask around the locals if any one knows the land owner :-? But from what I can make out the last time they visited their house was over 2 years ago and they are just sitting on the land and property as they are very wealthy :-ss


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 10:54 pm 
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we are now buying a bit of land 15ft x 40ft of our English neighbour the surveyor is charging 550 euros then we will have notare fees to pay :shock:
but luckily we are only being charged a very small amount for the land :)


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:16 am 
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Well done!

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That's good news. It's good getting the boundaries clearly defined to prevent any problems in the future.


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 Post subject: Re: Purchase of rough ground ?
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I cant believe how much the pen pushers charge in France 550euro for a surveyor and 850euro for the notaire :o
but the money will soon be forgot when we are sat in the new garden in the sun :-j :lol:


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